From russell at flora.ca Mon Jul 5 10:12:46 2010 From: russell at flora.ca (Russell McOrmond) Date: Mon Jul 5 10:08:03 2010 Subject: [discuss] Should CLUE sign up to "ACTA belongs to the past"? Message-ID: <4C31E85E.1070606@flora.ca> Check out: open letter - 59 NGOs signatories so far! - add yours! http://ur1.ca/0hrjm "ACTA belongs to the past." After reading this, do the participants here think CLUE should sign on? What are peoples thoughts about what they have heard about ACTA, the so-called "Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement" which most believe has little to do with counterfeiting or trade. -- Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: Please help us tell the Canadian Parliament to protect our property rights as owners of Information Technology. Sign the petition! http://fix.billc32.ca/petition/ict/ "The government, lobbied by legacy copyright holders and hardware manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer, home theatre, or portable media player from my cold dead hands!" From evan at telly.org Mon Jul 5 10:24:26 2010 From: evan at telly.org (Evan Leibovitch) Date: Mon Jul 5 10:19:25 2010 Subject: [discuss] Should CLUE sign up to "ACTA belongs to the past"? In-Reply-To: <4C31E85E.1070606@flora.ca> References: <4C31E85E.1070606@flora.ca> Message-ID: Count me in the "hell yeah" camp on this one. We oughtta be part of it. - Evan (sent from my Android phone) On 5 Jul 2010 10:13, "Russell McOrmond" wrote: Check out: open letter - 59 NGOs signatories so far! - add yours! http://ur1.ca/0hrjm"ACTA belongs to the past." After reading this, do the participants here think CLUE should sign on? What are peoples thoughts about what they have heard about ACTA, the so-called "Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement" which most believe has little to do with counterfeiting or trade. -- Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: Please help us tell the Canadian Parliament to protect our property rights as owners of Information Technology. Sign the petition! http://fix.billc32.ca/petition/ict/ "The government, lobbied by legacy copyright holders and hardware manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer, home theatre, or portable media player from my cold dead hands!" _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discuss@cluecan.ca http://www.linux.ca/mailman/listinfo/discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cluecan.ca/pipermail/discuss/attachments/20100705/bba9811d/attachment.html From gmatthewrice at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 11:01:54 2010 From: gmatthewrice at gmail.com (G. Matthew Rice) Date: Mon Jul 5 10:57:11 2010 Subject: [discuss] Should CLUE sign up to "ACTA belongs to the past"? In-Reply-To: References: <4C31E85E.1070606@flora.ca> Message-ID: Well, it's a symptom of a bigger problem, IMO, but it's gets a +1 from me, too. --matt On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: > Count me in the "hell yeah" camp on this one.? We oughtta be part of it. > > - Evan (sent from my Android phone) > > On 5 Jul 2010 10:13, "Russell McOrmond" wrote: > > Check out: > > open letter - 59 NGOs signatories so far! - add yours! http://ur1.ca/0hrjm > "ACTA belongs to the past." > > ?After reading this, do the participants here think CLUE should sign on? > ?What are peoples thoughts about what they have heard about ACTA, the > so-called "Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement" which most believe has > little to do with counterfeiting or trade. > > -- > ?Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: > ?Please help us tell the Canadian Parliament to protect our property > ?rights as owners of Information Technology. Sign the petition! > ?http://fix.billc32.ca/petition/ict/ > > ?"The government, lobbied by legacy copyright holders and hardware > ?manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer, home theatre, or > ?portable media player from my cold dead hands!" > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss@cluecan.ca > http://www.linux.ca/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss@cluecan.ca > http://www.linux.ca/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > -- G. Matthew Rice gpg id: EF9AAD20 From psema4 at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 16:01:00 2010 From: psema4 at gmail.com (Scott Elcomb) Date: Mon Jul 5 15:55:56 2010 Subject: [discuss] Should CLUE sign up to "ACTA belongs to the past"? In-Reply-To: <4C31E85E.1070606@flora.ca> References: <4C31E85E.1070606@flora.ca> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Russell McOrmond wrote: > Check out: > > open letter - 59 NGOs signatories so far! - add yours! http://ur1.ca/0hrjm > "ACTA belongs to the past." > > ?After reading this, do the participants here think CLUE should sign on? > ?What are peoples thoughts about what they have heard about ACTA, the > so-called "Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement" which most believe has > little to do with counterfeiting or trade. I'm in the Yes camp as well, and have been for some time. With all the media attention on ACTA over the last year though, I'm worried that some of the more disturbing aspects of ACTA will sneak through (via CETA) even if Canada does not sign on. -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ @psema4 Member of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ From marc at lijour.net Mon Jul 5 23:55:40 2010 From: marc at lijour.net (Marc Lijour) Date: Mon Jul 5 23:50:36 2010 Subject: [discuss] Should CLUE sign up to "ACTA belongs to the past"? In-Reply-To: <4C31E85E.1070606@flora.ca> References: <4C31E85E.1070606@flora.ca> Message-ID: <201007052355.40637.marc@lijour.net> +1 Lots of concerns regarding the respect of human rights and expected processes in democratic countries. Closed-door debates are already a bad omen, but when it comes to business interests, potential attacks to the principle of net neutrality (the nature of the internet, as defended by its creator Tim Berners Lee), and big questions regarding privacy and information rights, this kind of negotiations should be taken seriously by every citizens. CLUE has certainly a role to play as some sort of technical watchdog. Marc From russell at flora.ca Wed Jul 7 09:57:10 2010 From: russell at flora.ca (Russell McOrmond) Date: Wed Jul 7 09:52:19 2010 Subject: [discuss] Participation in Digital Economy consultation Message-ID: <4C3487B6.2080108@flora.ca> Friday is the final day to participate in this consultation. If you haven't done so, you may want to sign up. Even if you don't have the time to write your own submission or post your own ideas to the idea forum, you may want to vote up some of the other ideas. I've posted a few of my own and others I support here: http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/5185 If you have posted ideas you would like me to highlight in that article, please let me now. Thanks! -- Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: Please help us tell the Canadian Parliament to protect our property rights as owners of Information Technology. Sign the petition! http://fix.billc32.ca/petition/ict/ "The government, lobbied by legacy copyright holders and hardware manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer, home theatre, or portable media player from my cold dead hands!"